Clean bird and rinse well. Put in a large bowl and cover with water and a little salt. Soak over night. Drain and rinse well again. Stuff birds with medium sized pieces of orange, onion, celery, and apple. Place bird on large piece of tin foil and sprinkle outside with chopped rosemary(optional). Wrap birds tightly in the tin foil. Depending on the size of the birds, bake at 325 for about 2 hours. Serve with wild rice and green beans.